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We now begin the Emergency Non Summit Meeting.
On June 24th, Brexit was determined.
The U.K's decision to leave the EU, also known as Brexit...
- What is Brexit? - After the Brexit decision...
It's destabilizing the global economic order.
Throughout London, young people protest against the decision to leave the EU.
Stock and currency exchange throughout the world has been shaken violently.
The financial market took a direct blow.
Because this issue is our topic today, we invited a representative of the U.K.
- This is Emil Price, the representative the U.K. - Nice to meet you.
Hello, I'm Emil from United Kingdom, London.
I've been in Korea for two and a half years and...
I came here to talk about Brexit today.
- Is he from U.K? - I think so.
- Isn't he from Australia or New Zealand? - No, he's not.
I heard that "Half years".
I thought Emil was Daniel Radcliffe.
- Oh, Daniel Radcliffe. - They look identical.
- I think that's an insult. - An insult.
- If he wears Zahid's glasses, - You don't like it?
he'd look like Harry Potter.
- Try them on. - No, I mean...
- Try them on. - Okay.
- Daniel Radcliffe. - Give him this magic wand.
- Right. - Harry Potter?
- He's going to transform now. - I'll use magic too.
- He does look like him. - Wow.
- You know that magic... - Petronum something.
"Wingardium leviosa."
(Levitating)
- Thanks to my glasses, okay? - Yes.
Okay, this is Emil Price from U.K.
We didn't have a U.K. representative, so I didn't have the chance to ask this.
I heard France and the U.K. don't like each other.
To be honest, that's not exactly true.
British people don't really like the French,
- but French people... - No, no.
French people don't care. Really.
- No, no. - So the French don't care.
The British don't like the French and the French don't care about the British.
France has Belgium, Italy, and Switzerland around it. It has many countries nearby.
- But... - So you're saying they're making a fuss by themselves when you don't care.
That's not true.
- British people don't hate the French these days. - Is that so?
Older people might have some grudges, of course.
- Right, "Of course". - Yes.
- Do you like the Americans? - Me? Or...
- The French people. - French people don't really like them.
Who do French people like then?
- We like people from Quebec. - Oh, really?
- France... - Canada is...
- We like Italians too. - Oh, Italy. I see.
- We like each other. - Both of you.
U.K. has decided to leave the EU.
Since Brexit was decided, the value of pound has dropped by 10%.
Prime Minister Cameron, who opposed Brexit, has announced his resignation.
It will take the U.K. two years to complete Brexit,
so we don't know what will happen. That's why we are holding this emergency meeting.
For the Europeans, this is about yourselves.
- It's a big issue. - I think you will have lots of things to say.
Emil, what do you think as a British citizen?
The reason why the U.K. wants to leave the EU is...
mainly because of the immigrants.
Amongst the EU agreements, there is something called Free Movement.
Any European citizen can freely work and live in the U.K.
- The British feel that the Europeans are stealing jobs. - Stealing jobs.
But I'm against Brexit.
To be honest, there were so many British people working in Europe.
- Wasn't that the reason why the EU was formed? - Right.
- So, it's helpful for each other. - Right.
I think the idea is absurd. I'm against it.
From what I heard, the older people in the U.K...
- hate being a part of Europe. - Right.
So, we can clearly feel the generation gap in the U.K. now.
The older people are very conservative.
The majority of them voted to leave EU.
- Shall we listen to the other countries? - Yes.
- Let's have a show of hands for those who think Brexit was good. - Yes, everyone.
In 1, 2, 3. Raise your hands.
- France and India. - As I thought, France.
I think Brexit is good for both the U.K. and Europe.
- Really? - Yes, I think this is good because...
From the start,
U.K. participated in the EU economically,
- but it was against political participation. - Right.
Because the U.K. is an island country,
- it has a unique culture and is very independent. - Okay.
- You are, right? - I think France is more so.
You don't like to change your decisions based on other countries' input, right?
(See this?)
Putting the U.K. aside, it's definitely not good for Europe.
Because every year...
- U.K. paid £17 billion for its membership fee last year. - Okay.
How will not having that money do any good for Europe?
This is what I think. All countries benefited a lot.
- Throughout EU. - Right.
There are definitely problems now.
We have problems to solve.
- But they just left. - So, they just took what they needed.
They have no loyalty at all.
- The U.K. is? - That's how it feels.
There is another problem. You know, London has been the center of EU finance.
But now, that no longer needs to be the case. European investors...
can move to Paris or Frankfurt.
From the EU's perspective, we don't need to receive anything from the U.K. now.
- So the U.K. has become an outcast. - They chose to become one.
- That might be true. - Choosing to be an outcast.
What Alberto said... Right now, the U.K. accounts for...
over 50% of trade in the EU.
From the other countries' perspective, they no longer have any reason to allow that.
They won't give the U.K. trade opportunities.
I'll say. After taking all the good things from EU,
choosing to abandon the bad things is unbelievable.
It's really a big problem. It's a really big concern.
- You do look very concerned. - You look very worried.
Without the EU, we're bound to lose our strengths.
- What about you Lucky? - First...
U.K. ruled over India for 150 years.
They damaged the Indian economy for 150 years, so it's about time they suffer too.
- So you think they deserve it. - You didn't actually mean it's a good thing.
Good for you!
If I'm to say this seriously, as we've seen already,
- the people in their 20's and people in the 50's voted differently. - Yes.
So, in a way, I think it was a disparity between the young and the experienced.
There really is no reason for the U.K. to remain with the EU.
It's because... the U.K. already suffered losses from the EU by the Greek incident.
Now, Italy and Spain are following in line. So, from the U.K's perspective,
I feel that they made this decision to prevent further losses in the future.
There's so much to gain by staying.
For instance, there are over a million foreign workers in London.
Those people are all paying taxes and living in London.
They will suddenly need to get visas now.
- Then they can think, "Hey, I'll just work in Germany instead". - Somewhere else.
The British people working in Europe too.
Foreign companies might choose not to hire them.
They'd rather hire French or German workers than British workers.
"Hey, these people aren't from the EU."
They'd need visas and things as foreigners.
Another problem is schools. Education system.
There is this thing called the Erasmus Program.
If you participate in it, you can go to and study in any university.
They don't pay tuition and actually receive financial support.
But they won't be able to get it now.
It's nothing from an older person's perspective,
but it's a huge loss for young people.
So in London, people say London should become independent.
- Nice. - London wants to become independent.
- They want London to be a part of the EU. - They started gathering signatures too.
I'm from London, so on my social media,
my friends say that we should vote again.
- Vote again? - They are all upset.
You should've thought of that earlier. There's this law in Europe.
One you leave, you can't join again.
- If you were going to regret it, you should've thought about it first. - Exactly.
- It's not his fault. - I'm against it.
- Why are you blaming him? - He's the U.K. representative.
- This is something very cruel to say, - Yes?
but a financial crisis in Europe like this...
- is a good opportunity for some countries in Asia. - Oh.
India received Brexit very favorably. It's because...
the FTA between India and the EU wasn't going very well.
It's very complicated for India to trade with the EU.
Now, we can make agreements with the U.K. directly.
- We can forge new opportunities. India is a big market.
- Yes - There are many perspectives.
So, you're saying Brexit will affect the European economy negatively.
- It will, of course. - Be it positive or negative, it will cause anxieties.
It'll be a huge change.
Who creates anxieties? People do. We watch the news. Fear sells very well.
The stock prices of the 3 biggest investment banks in U.K. dropped by 20%.
- In just 1 day. All 3 of them. - Right.
How much money is that?
- Guilaume, you're the stock expert. - Right.
Did Korean stock prices drop a lot too?
Yes, KOSPI index dropped by 3%.
Japan suffered the biggest loss in Asia. It was 8% there.
They were intentionally keeping the value of the Japanese yen low for three years.
But it suddenly rose over a day.
People who owned euros bought U.S. dollars and Japanese yen. The prices went up.
So I bought some dollars ahead of time.
- You bought dollars? - Yes.
Switzerland is in the same position.
When there is a global financial crisis,
- many people buy Swiss francs. - Right.
- Yes. - The value of Swiss franc goes up.
- Did it go up? - Yes, it rose a lot.
- So, Swiss... - Why are you smiling? Did you buy any?
- He is from Switzerland. He already has it! - That's...
- Oh, he already has it. - He would have some.
(The man who owns Swiss francs.)
That was like asking a Korean person, "Did you buy Korean won?" I'm sorry.
- But... - I thought you were Korean.
When the value of Swiss franc rises,
- Swiss export goods become more expensive. - Right.
- So it has a bad impact on the Swiss economy. - You're worried about it.
We talked a lot about the economy,
but I also think it's very dangerous politically.
In Germany, there are a lot of people who are against accepting refugees these days.
I think they might gain more support because of Brexit.
With the U.K. leaving the EU,
other European countries will focus more on domestic issues than international ones.
Other countries are considering leaving too.
Right. If the U.K. is successful after leaving, they might consider leaving too.
- Why is it bad? - Did you just ask why it's bad?
- Is Europe a prison? - No, I mean...
Okay. Someone said, "Is Europe a prison?"
Hold on. If all other countries leave,
Europe will become weaker.
Smaller countries are weaker while countries like the U.S. or India...
- are big, so... - Then we need to create a new Europe.
Because even the French people...
are starting to lose their faith in Europe.
- That's... - We need a new plan.
As I know, the British people who supported Brexit...
- wanted the Swiss Model. - Yes, the Swiss Model.
- They wanted U.K. to be like Switzerland. - I'll give it to you.
- Thank you. - Switzerland...
- is not a member of the EU. - Right, it's not.
Many Swiss people understand why the U.K. wants to leave the EU.
- Yes, they'd understand. - Right, but...
Congratulations on becoming a non-member of the EU.
(Welcome, thank you!)
- You know, the term Brexit... - Yes?
Other countries are thinking the same thing these days.
- They have a term called Czech Out for Czech. - Czech Out!
- And for Italy, there is Italeave. - Italeave!
But doesn't Brexit sound like a name of an awesome idol group?
- "Hello, we're Brexit!" - I think there will be one soon.
Mark hasn't said anything after getting his hair done.
(He got caught.)
- How is the U.S? - You know, as a very democratic country,
I think the process was well carried out democratically.
But I would've never chosen Brexit.
Because we consider the U.K. to be a bridge between us and Europe.
- A bridge to Europe. - So I think that's what makes us a bit upset.
- Now with that bridge gone, - Yes?
the U.S. has to maintain a good relationship with Europe...
while also maintaining a good relationship with the U.K. This is what it's like.
If we're one family, European countries are like our relatives.
And I think the U.K. is like our closest cousin.
- We kept in touch with the other relatives through that cousin. - Right.
- He broke ties with them. - Yes.
French people don't consider the U.K. to be the cousin of the U.S.
We consider them to be the Trojan Horse of the U.S.
- The U.K? - Yes, the U.K.
- Oh, that's how... - Wait a minute.
A Trojan Horse?
- He's angry. - No, this is...
I don't understand what kind of nonsense this is.
- France is always like that. - France is always satirical.
- I told you already. - Why are you making him angry?
- We discovered America. - You're best friends.
We even made English, the language they use in the U.S.
- But why... - It's hard to express your anger in a foreign language, right?
If all you can say is "I am a boy" and you have to say something angrily,
- I said I'm a boy! - A boy!
But I think he is mistaken.
We have a good relationship with Europe and the U.S.
I think they're jealous or envious because of that.
- I think that's how it is with France. - Oh.
Wait. Wait a minute. You call that a good relationship? I mean the government...
- No, I mean economically. - It depends on the person's...
- Aurélien has been the most talkative today. - I meant economically.
- There's a relationship. - He's trying to be the annoying guy.
You said you're in a good relationship with Europe. Why don't you use the euro then?
- Why do they use pounds instead of euros? - Yes.
The British always think that they are special.
No, that's not true. The reason why we don't use it...
is because we can't do things independently otherwise.
But this isn't a bad thing.
- It's not a bad thing. - In the end...
They said they love the EU,
but they didn't use euros. They also refused other things.
- Why won't you wear the couple ring? - No, wait. Why...
- Why... - There's no way out of this one.
It's like not posting the picture of your lover on your messenger profile.
- That's not true. They love the EU. - But why wouldn't they agree to it?
- Is that so important? - Aren't you dating someone else?
- That's not true. - Look at his feelings!
The way we think... The way European countries think...
is that the U.K. is the spoiled child of the EU.
- It's because... No, really. - Oh that's it.
- Calm down. - The U.K. and France...
Emil, the U.K. is the Spoiled Trojan Horse.
- He's so angry. - It's because...
we tolerated so many things.
We let them use pounds for financial reasons.
- We let them drive the way they want. - On the left side.
They're also not a part of the Schengen Agreement.
Like this, like a really spoiled child,
they're choosing to leave because the situation isn't looking good.
- But... - What Mark said is very important.
If Scotland and Northern Ireland suddenly...
They said they want to rejoin the EU.
- Then that's going to leave just England and Wales. - They'll be lonely.
They won't be able to do anything.
- It'll reduce their influence. - Yes, the U.S. will...
be better off looking to forge better relationships...
with France, Germany, Italy, or other countries.
When it comes to this, shouldn't you vote again?
- They look very stupid. On Saturday... - Stupid?
On Saturday, after Brexit was decided, one of the most searched questions...
on a search engine was "What is the EU?"
They voted without knowing what the EU is.
- That's not just from the U.K. - Really?
- They voted without even knowing what the EU is? - The older people...
"Oh, people say the foreigners come to steal our jobs."
- So they just voted without knowing what the EU is. - Right.
There was an absurd story. This person didn't know what the EU is.
It was a young British woman. The reason why she voted for Brexit was...
- because she didn't want to watch soccer games. - I saw that too.
- She thought she'd never have to watch soccer again if Brexit was decided. - Gosh.
- What is she saying? - This is the downside of a well-developed democracy.
- A perfect democracy gives everyone the right no matter... - That's true.
- They all... - So it's called mediocre politics.
But we only talked about the negative side of Brexit.
Shouldn't we talk about the good things too?
- There is nothing good to talk about. - He's right.
- No, wait. Those people have other perspectives too. - A good side...
One of the good things people say...
is that with the lowering of the value of pounds, tourists will visit the U.K. more.
- That's possible. - It'd be nice to travel to the U.K.
- One of the people that is happy... is Trump. - Trump.
He happened to be in the U.K. at that time.
He was opening a new golf resort there.
So, Trump looked very happy. Now, because pounds will be cheaper,
he thought more tourists will come to the golf resort.
- He said it's a great thing. - He called it a great thing?
- A good thing, a great thing... - What a free-spirited guy.
What Americans are worried about is the reason behind the Brexit.
The reason is partly due to negative feelings towards immigrants.
There were the same feelings in the U.S. The seeds of those feelings.
Those seeds were sown by Trump.
If this was possible... What should've been impossible happened.
People are worried if it would be possible for Trump too.
The current mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, is a second generation immigrant.
- The people that were most concerned were the immigrants. - Right.
So as an immigrant himself, he said this.
"The immigrants living in London are contributing a lot to the economy of London."
"So I believe we must continue to work together."
So the immigrants are getting some hope. Some chances.
But, we already left the EU.
So now, it can't be helped.
- People like me were against it. - It feels like everything was in vain.
The young people.
But now we have to live according to this decision for the rest of our lives.
- So now, we should not blame each other. We shouldn't fight. - It's already done.
I think we now need to work together to be successful in the world.
Emil, when are you going to the U.K?
- Well, next month. My grandmother is getting married. - You live in Korea, right?
- Did you say your grandmother is getting married? - Did I hear him right?
- You know what the word "marry" means, right? - So this is what it's like.
- This is the real issue. - Your grandmother is getting married.
- She's in her 70's. - That's amazing.
- In the U.K... - Is her boyfriend... Can I call him her boyfriend?
- He is her boyfriend. - Step-grandfather?
- Stepfather, step grandfather. - It's...
She broke up with her boyfriend eight months ago.
She suddenly told me she got a new boyfriend.
- That's amazing. - And four months after that, she said she's going to get married.
- Brexit or whatever... - What Brexit? That's not important now.
- Will you be returning to Korea after wards? - Yes.
U.K. left the EU, but Emil will be staying in Korea. That's today's conclusion.
- Thank you for joining us today. - Thank you.
With the Brexit decision, the whole world will be watching over the U.K.
I wonder what changes will occur.
- Whenever there is an issue, we'll hold emergency meetings like this one. - Okay.
- That was our Emergency Non Summit Meeting. - We will adjourn it immediately.
(Today's Non Summit Meeting Attendees)
(The main debate)
First, we will have each representative bring...
a topic that they wish to discuss with the G9's and share a variety of opinions.
We discuss all global issues by agreeing or disagreeing.
"Agree or Disagree, What is So Important?"
- Yes, that's a good segment. - "You don't even know what's important!"
- That's enough. - Okay.
Let's hear what issues we have today.
- From Switzerland, by Alex. - Okay.
Switzerland recently held a referendum on the provision of basic income.
About 77% of the population voted against it, so it was not passed.
The proposal was to provide $3,000 to all adults who are 18 years old or older...
- and $780 dollars to teenagers without any conditions attached. - No conditions.
It's not per family. It's per person.
- Amazing. - They'd just give $3,000 to a person each month.
If it's a family of two parents, two sons, and a daughter, they'd receive $15,000.
He'd get $780 while he and I would receive $3,000 each.
- That's what we would get. - That's not bad.
But $3,000 isn't that much considering the economy and prices in Switzerland.
If one makes $3,000 per month, how well-off is that person?
- Would the person be poor? - He or she would barely make it each month.
- There are many people who make that much. - The prices of goods are different.
- How much is a Big Mac? We need an example. - To be honest,
- a Bic Mac in Switzerland is the most expensive one in the world. - Oh.
Anyway, let's see who agrees and who disagrees.
If you're against the basic income provision, press the button. In 1, 2, 3.
- Why are you against it? - Everyone but Guilaume and Aurélien are against it.
This is actually a method to reduce the gap between the rich and the poor.
- We tested this in Canada 40 years ago. - How was it?
They tried it in the province of Manitoba.
It was less than $3,000 back then.
They gave money to everyone. So more students graduated from schools...
- because they didn't have to work part-time. - I see.
- And the number of patients in psychiatric hospitals decreased. - It was good then.
Yes, in a way, there were very positive effects.
And we provided basic income by removing the existing social welfare policies.
It saves on welfare expenses, so it's more efficient.
- Are they still doing it? - Why did it stop?
It's because... After the ruling party changed, the conservative party stopped it.
In conclusion, the economists evaluated it positively.
If China gave $3,000 per person to 1.3 billion people, China would disappear.
No. That's for Switzerland, not China.
Would you agree if the amount was adjusted to suit China's situation?
- I don't want them to give it out. - Why?
I think people should earn what they need to live.
If we do that, people would get paid even if they don't do anything.
Why would they go to work? That doesn't help the country grow.
- He speaks in Jeolla dialect when he's excited. - In that previous experiment,
men's average number of work hours only decreased by 1%.
Work hours of women who have children decreased by 3%.
So they don't become lazy. They keep working... - They don't become lazy.
- while receiving the money. - They work.
But if people get paid while doing nothing, people will do nothing.
They will lose the motivation.
That's a prejudice.
In fact, because... We have a singer here.
- A singer... An artist... - So he's just a singer and he's just the host.
- The host. - A comedian. So, a singer is?
You are willing to make songs even if you don't get paid, right?
- Oh, without getting paid. - They have those desires.
- The heart... - No, I'd be more motivated if I make money.
Wouldn't your resolve weaken?
- Yes. - He's right.
The way to get a famous songwriter to write a song for you quickly is to pay them.
But if you're not worried about earning a living,
what would you do all day long?
- I will... - You'll write songs, right?
Of course. If I could live without any worries.
- I do think I will be able to do more things. - I know.
- Since you brought it up... - Me too.
If people don't need to work, they can do volunteer work and things.
- They'll find something valuable to do. - They can do something meaningful.
- Right. - I think you think that because French economy is sound.
- I... - You're very aggressive today.
In my country, for instance...
If I think practically,
students don't do part-time jobs.
Their dads do everything for them. They don't even think about working.
If they don't work, wouldn't they study instead?
They won't study. They'll just play.
- Isn't it the student's fault then? - So...
- Most of them are like that. - Yes.
- This is similar to what Marx said in the past. - Yes, he did.
- Marx said if we provide income to everyone, people can do more things. - Marx.
In the end, they provided free meals in China.
They just got free food every lunch.
It was a complete failure.
It might look good at first, but people will get lazy eventually.
- I got something to say to Zahid. - Okay.
- They're doing it in Finland... - Yes.
and in Amsterdam. The experiment in Canada was successful too.
We had good results.
- If so... - Hold on. Weren't there any downsides?
- Exactly. - Downsides? -
Isn't that why it stopped?
Did the funding all come from tax money?
- So... - It was paid by the country.
- I don't remember any downsides. - It does redistribute wealth.
- It doesn't increase tax that much. - He says it doesn't increase tax.
- It doesn't. - He says so. They've done it in Canada.
The experiment Guilaume said must've been for just a few people.
- If the country... - It's not like we just have 100 people or so in Canada.
- But it was a test. - Don't underestimate Canada.
- Was it for the entire population? - It was just in Manitoba.
If they pay everyone in the country, where would they get the money for that?
- Well... - That is the problem.
It's okay for a test. But to do it at a national level, it's going to cost a lot.
That'll have to come from tax money.
If they do it, it's going to cause an inflation.
- The government will raise tax too. - Right.
So, it can cause other problems.
Something I want to say to Guilaume and Aurélien is...
This is a plan to reduce the poverty gap.
But there is a policy for that already.
- The rich pays more tax. - They pay more.
Then there are financial aids.
The government does spend money now,
but the money goes to those who really need it.
And the government decides how the money will be spent.
- But they'd be giving that choice to people. - For example, medical insurances.
But if they give the same amount of money to everyone,
the people get to choose how to spend the money.
Then, there will be people who spend it wisely.
- Some people will waste it. - But others...
might spend it on drinking, smoking, and womanizing.
- There will be people like that. - They'd waste money on meat.
The money is for the people,
but should the government take responsibility? Or should it be the individuals?
It's similar to the controversy in Korea regarding selective welfare or...
- It's like that. - Poor people are a burden for the government.
- But if they do this, it becomes better for everyone. - Actually,
countries like Sweden or Denmark have a very small income disparity.
The result was, people's level of education dropped.
- Students know they'd get paid similarly... - They don't see the need to study.
regardless of the job they have. So they don't study.
- That could be true. - Like we said, art might flourish more.
Life won't be as competitive.
- And they do study what they like. - Right.
- If I want to study Greek, I do it. - That's true for artistic things,
but there are jobs people hate. If people don't get paid, what about those jobs?
- He's right. - That might be right.
The jobs people hate will be hated even more.
They'll get paid even more.
I think, instead of giving the money to the people, the money should be used...
by the government to invest in creating more jobs.
If I consider the future, that's how I think.
- The money should be spent on creating more jobs. - Right.
I think his opinion is the thing of the present or the past.
- From now on, artificial intelligence... AI is it? - Artificial intelligence?
Yes, lots of jobs will disappear.
For example, our city has a metro but not drivers.
It's 100% automated.
And in 20 years, G company's cars...
- We might have those. - Self-driving cars?
They wrote a song this time. It was made by AI.
- A song? Oh, like a songwriter. - Be careful.
- Can AI write songs now? - You'll lose your job.
- But that... - They won't sing, will they?
- I don't think it sings yet. - Beep, beep.
Beep, beep.
You were amazing, beep, beep
- So, the jobs people hate... - I heard you don't have copyright problems with them.
- You're right! - They avoid any copyright infringements.
They would filter things out automatically.
So, I think this is a system for the future.
- Mark makes lots of money, so he doesn't want to pay more tax. - No.
- Is it because he's rich? - Rich people hate this idea.
- No, I'm... - He wants to pay only 10% tax.
- Aurélien is right. - That's what it was.
Like he said, when the age of robots comes,
lots of jobs will disappear. So people will need to receive income at that time.
So, it would be fine if we have it then.
- Is it too early for now? - Now, people have jobs...
and I think it will lower people's motivations.
- This is really difficult. - Lucky, this is hard. Say something for us.
- Lucky! - Well...
(Feeling pressured)
- In my country, even without basic income, - We're all ears.
there are plenty of people who spend time staring at the sky and the birds.
If we do this...
In India, if a person is 58 years or older, he or she gets $20 each month.
- Is it $20? - Yes. But to get that, you have to work $200 worth.
How much is $20 in India in terms of living expenses?
Even in India, if you live in Delhi, you won't even survive 2 days with $20.
It's a big hassle to take the documents to all the different places.
It's so exhausting that people don't do it. It's tough.
Anyway, the plan was rejected in Switzerland too with 77% voting against it.
Does Switzerland hold referendums often?
Yes, we do it often. Switzerland is a direct democracy.
- I haven't heard of that word for a while. - Yes, so...
There are about 3 or 4 referendums in Switzerland every year.
And there are about 3 or 4 issues for each referendum.
To call a referendum, you need to gather the signatures of 100,000 people.
I read it in a textbook. "Switzerland is the best example of a direct democracy."
(Oh, okay.)
My teacher said, "They can do that because their population is small."
"We have a large population. That's why we need to vote."
- That's how he explained it 30 years ago. - Right.
- That'd be impossible in China or India. - It'd take five years for the results.
But we had a similar experience recently.
Delhi has a large population, so there are lots of cars now.
So we tried to test a traffic rationing system by odd and even numbers.
This January, we could vote through the phone.
- By phone? - Yes, by phone.
- Because setting up voting stations... - But people don't have phones.
In the villages.
It wasn't in the villages. Just Delhi.
- Just inside the city. - Just inside Delhi?
They will have two more tests and decide whether or not to pass the law.
They're very careful.
- But they need to do something about the horns. - To stop them from honking.
Koreans don't do that, so I thought there were no cars in Korea.
- Did you says Koreans don't? - No, we do.
- We do that too. - We do that quite a lot.
- It's nothing compared to India. - But in the U.S. or...
It surprises me when I'm in western countries. People think...
something very serious happened when I honk the horn.
In India, people always write "Blow horn" on the back of buses.
- It's written on them. - He's right. Why do they do that?
People get bored while driving, so they honk the horn a few times.
- So they don't fall asleep. - It's actually written on the plates.
- It's a cultural... - So everyone does this.
(I'm bored.)
If you're behind a big car and don't honk the horn, they won't give way.
You have to keep honking.
Okay. Can you tell us about some odd examples of voting?
Since the U.S. is big and has a large population,
instead of having referendums all the time,
we vote at the state-level.
There was a famous voting in California in 2008.
It was called Proposition 8.
They had already allowed same-sex marriage in some city in California.
But there were people opposing it.
It had to be decided by the people, so we had a voting.
People voted against it, so we ended up disallowing it.
Now it's all changed. It's allowed in all 50 states now.
In my country, we elect the president or the prime minister too.
But we also have a voting for extending Musharraf's term of office by five years.
- We had a banchan referendum. - You mean yes or no.
- Banchan means side dishes in Korean. - Hey, you're making me hungry!
- We call it yes or no. - Yes, yes or no referendum.
That is... That person...
There was a conflict between Representative of the People and the prime minister.
They removed the prime minister and Representative of the People came into power.
This was in 2002.
He wanted to represent the country for five more years.
- So he made a voting for... - How did it go?
People said yes, so he stayed as the president for five years.
- I see. - Yes.
We have referendums often, too. There were already two this year.
We even had a voting to reduce the amount of advertising on television.
- Were the advertisements too long? - There were too many.
We tried to reduce it, but people voted against it.
- Why? - I'm not sure.
- The people said no? Not the broadcasters? - The advertising must be very funny.
Maybe they're funnier than the programs.
If we think of it, we want to reduce them.
But if we think about it logically, the broadcasters...
need to make lots of profit to produce good programs.
Do you remember? For "Movie of the Weekend" or "Saturday Movie".
- Right. - There were so many advertisements.
- They were longer than 10 minutes. - I fell asleep waiting for the movie to start.
- Right. - There were too many advertisements.
- They were longer than 10 minutes. - What's even worse is...
when they buy the same advertisement many times.
- They force you to learn by rote. - You're right.
Didn't you feel that on a radio program?
You memorize an advertisement after one month.
I memorized one, too. That Seoul D University.
- Oh. - I know that one, too.
(They memorized it perfectly.)
- That's all I hear at night. - Yes.
There are many funny ones.
There are many countries that hold referendums and those that have indirect voting.
- I realize that the people's careful decision-makings are important. - All right.
Okay, we debated about issues from many countries.
Yes or no. Banchan. We had a vote.
We will find out "What is So Important" next week too.
"What is So Important?"
I made that up.
Great job.
Today's Non Summit topic is something very closely related to the G9's here.
Many young people are leaving their countries for various reasons.
In March, 9 out of 10 Koreans looking for jobs...
wanted to get a job abroad according to the research by a web portal.
Yes. So today, for people who want to have a job opportunity overseas,
we will talk about "How to Live and Survive in a Foreign Country".
All the G9's here have left their countries and are working in a foreign country.
You are living and surviving in a foreign country.
- That's right. They came here to live well. - Yes.
Lucky. When did you come to Korea? How long has it been?
I came here in 1996.
- Really? - I came here in 1996, yes.
- That's when he was born. - He was three years old.
Until the 90's the GNP of India and Korea were similar.
When Korea started developing very fast, my father said...
I should go to Korea...
instead of going to the U.S. or U.K.
- He had a foresight for it. - Yes, I'm very thankful.
Don't you think you would've sold more sesame seeds if you had gone to the U.S?
There are lots of things to do.
Mark has all it takes to be successful in the U.S, but he chose to come to Korea.
I was working at an investment bank in Wall Street, but I had this feeling.
The person next to me would be from Harvard, another one from Yale,
and I'm from Princeton. We were all similar.
We all did the same work. There was no diversity.
I wanted to have a unique experience...
and develop my own unique skills. That's what I wanted to do.
- A new challenge. - Right.
I first came to Korea as a student.
Pakistan has severe energy problems.
So we get sudden blackouts in hot summer days and things.
- When you turn on an air conditioner? - Yes.
So I think it would be nice to introduce...
some Korean energy technology to Pakistan. So I'm working in an energy company.
So, you're currently trying to steal some corporate secrets.
- No, not secrets... - You're not caught yet, right?
You know, I lived in Korea for a long time.
I want to do something for Korea too.
So I get my company to form consortiums...
- so that it can receive projects in Pakistan. - He's patriotic.
So, you came to Korea for various reasons.
Actually, we have another global representative who successfully got a job abroad.
Since she got a job as a member of a girl group in Korea,
- her popularity is rising steeply this year. - Who would it be?
- She's on the rise. - I gave you all the hints.
- If she's gaining popularity... - The answer is...
- Cao Lu from FIESTAR! - Yes!
(The 104th Non Summit Global Representative is Cao Lu.)
- Hello. - Welcome.
Hello. That's okay.
- Oh, Cao Lu. - Yes.
Alberto is a true gentleman.
- Yes, I'm Cao Lu from FIESTAR. Nice to meet you. - Yes.
- Yes. - The air's getting heated up.
Yes, it really is.
Take a seat.
Thank you.
- Yes, welcome. - It's getting lively.
- Okay. First, please introduce yourself in Chinese. - Okay.
(Hello, I'm Cao Lu from FIESTAR.)
Hello, I'm Cao Lu from FIESTAR. Nice to meet you.
(We are so happy to meet you.)
- They look so happy. - They look so happy!
- As the Chinese representative, what do you think of her? - She's amazing.
- What's amazing? - Did you two know each other?
- I saw her on television. I'm so... - Thank you.
Tell her that your her fan in Chinese.
- Yes. - Say whatever you want in Chinese.
(Nice to meet you.)
(Thank you.)
Remember what we learned last week? From Alberto?
(That killer comment!)
Oh, nice.
(You look like my future girlfriend.)
I'm sorry, I'm married.
(Oh I see.)
What happens when Cao Lu arrives in Venice?
She'll be arriving at the airport, right? The immigrations officer...
will try a pick-up line right away.
- Wait that's... - While checking her passport, right?
"You look like my future girlfriend."
(You definitely pass.)
They normally don't even look at you and do this.
You look like my future girlfriend.
- It's already been 10 years since Cao Lu came to Korea. - It's been 10 years.
Yes. I actually debuted in China once.
I released my first album and received the Best Rookie Award from CCTV.
While I was preparing for my second album, but my parents told me to go to school.
I came to Korea because I like Korea. Now I'm studying at Chung-Ang University.
- Wait. If you received the Best Rookie Award, that means you're very... - Exactly.
Cao Lu, you were...
selected for FIESTAR right away, right?
- So you haven't done part-time jobs in Korea, right? - I have.
When I was going to school, I worked in a beer bar.
When we didn't have customers, since the owner of the bar was a woman...
We had fun together shopping online.
I earned $400 every month, but spent almost $800 on online shopping.
- So you didn't make money. - I spent more than I earned.
I worked in a beer bar, too.
If the customers ask you for the best beer...
German beer, of course.
I think I've done the most number of part-time jobs amongst the G9's here.
- Oh. - Wow.
- I'm not sure about that. - Alberto disagrees.
- I... - Yes?
sold cell phones to foreigners.
I was a teacher at the Multicultural Museum.
I was a waiter in a restaurant.
I worked in a Korean convenience store.
- Wow, convenience store? - Convenience store.
The convenience store I worked in is the one...
on the first floor of the condominium Alex lives in.
- Really? - You could've met each other.
What kind of part-time jobs did you have, Alberto?
- I taught Italian in an Italian academy. - Tutoring?
- It was a very happy experience. - Why?
Because almost 98% of the students were women.
(Italy!)
- Italian is... - So that's why.
- So, it was... - You had other things in mind.
They were mostly students studying fashion design.
It was a very enjoyable part-time job.
I had an enjoyable part-time job too.
I've been to all the internet cafes in the country.
I participated in lots of events.
Before I go to an internet cafe, the owner of the place would hold a competition.
Then I played against the person who came first place in the competition.
- People came from faraway places. - They came from afar.
- I was happy and proud. - You were a star.
When you showed up at the internet cafes, did people go wild?
- They really did. - Did you ever lose?
I lost a few times. I met Lee Yun-yeol in a match.
I met lots of people who later became professional gamers.
Now, we will start the actual discussions with Cao Lu...
- about how to live and survive in a foreign country. - Yes.
- Can you announce the topic of the day? - Okay.
We left our countries and are working abroad. Are we abnormal?
- I want to put this on the agenda. - Okay.
- This is about yourselves. - Yes, when she said "We"...
- It's about yourselves. - Right.
We will put "We left our countries and are working abroad. Are we abnormal?"...
on the agenda. Let's start the debate.
(The first vote)
If you think it's abnormal, please press the button.
- In 1, 2, 3. Press it. - In 1, 2, 3.
(7 voted normal, including Cao Lu, and 3 voted abnormal)
Alberto, Mark, and Mao Yifeng.
I have two reasons.
From the American perspective, 2.5% of Americans are working abroad.
- People usually stay in the country. - They don't go abroad much.
And after getting to know these people better, I think they're all a bit weird.
- That's true. - So they look abnormal.
- He's right. We are the abnormal meeting. - I don't mean you're bad.
I think you need to have special qualities to live abroad.
Of course, we should have special qualities.
- But we're living in a global era now. - Right.
They say the world is one big family. After coming to Korea,
we all have our difficulties like culture and food. We overcame that.
I think the desire to be successful here is quite normal.
But to be honest, not many Italians come to Korea.
Most people go to a nearby country...
or to a country where it's easier to get a job. Like the U.S.
- You all come to Switzerland. - Yes, that's right.
And...
When I go back to Italy, my friends ask me this all the time.
- What? - How did you end up there?
- Why Korea? - "Why did you go there?"
You even started living in Sokcho.
- Right. - I think...
people usually go abroad to change their lives.
Especially in Korea, people feel lots of pressure from the society.
People want to go abroad to escape the pressure.
For example, Korean women...
get asked questions like, "When will you get married? When will you start a family?"
And when they have a child, they're asked to quit their jobs.
- Things like that. - People do that in Korea.
They don't do that in France, right? "When are you going to get married?"
- They don't. Actually, the reason for that is because... - So they don't.
French people often don't get married now.
- People don't get married? - People...
- don't get married. They just live together. - Actually...
I don't know about the past, but the internet is very developed these days.
- So our knowledge has broadened. - Our knowledge.
- We're not fish in a small pond. - The fish. That's cute.
We see lots of things and...
Transportation improve, so planes fly faster.
These are things we couldn't even dream of in the past, but now we can do them.
I think, if you have a dream,
- then leaving the country, returning, and so on... - It's a good thing.
- It is a good thing. That's what I think. - When you go abroad...
There are some countries where people have to go abroad.
- Right. - And there are those who don't need to.
- You know, Pakistan is a developing country. - Right.
I think Pakistani people have to go abroad in the given circumstances.
I think it's important to help the country grow with what you learned from abroad.
I think that's why many people go abroad.
You know, India and Pakistan aren't on the best of terms with each other.
Do you exchange things with each other?
India is just one of the many countries in the world.
Historically, many Indian people came...
to Pakistan as spies.
- Whenever he gets the chance. - Yes.
- Indian spies. - That's what makes them look bad.
- Even if they aren't spies... - Is spying a serious issue?
It is a bit serious. Another one was caught recently.
- I'm sorry, but... - What's going on, Lucky? Isn't this problematic?
Well, you can't tell a spy from his or her looks.
- So it's difficult to catch one. - They just caught an innocent Indian citizen.
Then they said, "Hey, you're a spy", and kept him in jail for 20 years. It's true!
- So they just imprisoned an innocent person? -So, Indian news reported that...
- an innocent man was framed as a spy. - He was framed.
- This has been a big issue for 20 years. - Really?
So, in 2013, they beat the man to death in a Pakistani prison.
Oh gosh.
A movie was made based on that incident.
- It's a true story. I'm not making this up. - This is completely wrong.
-But there is a movie. - No, it's because...
- A movie was made. - Hold on, it's because...
- It must've been really... - Just a few days ago,
some fishermen were caught after entering Pakistan.
- They were caught and were sent back. - They are fishermen, not spies.
- Right, they aren't spies. - Is this...
If Pakistan does what he says,
- it could have framed those fishermen as spies, too. But they didn't do that.
But recently, there was this man who was an Indian soldier.
- He was a high ranking member in the Indian military. - A commander?
He came to Pakistan and was working as a spy.
What was surprising was that he was working in the Pakistani military.
- Oh, my. So an Indian... - Oh my.
- An Indian officer was working in the Pakistani military. - Military espionage.
- He's a real spy, then. - Let me ask you this.
Do you think there are no Pakistani spies in India?
- I don't know. There could be. - This is what I'm talking about.
- Well, I... - This is the reason why I brought this up.
The number of Indian fishermen who are imprisoned...
in Pakistani jails has increased to 1,400 in the past 10 years.
These people are not spies.
But the politicians of the country are framing them.
The fishermen...
- It's not something we can talk about lightly. - So we...
Wait. You know, I told you this last week.
I wish the two countries would help each other out economically.
It really hurts my feelings. With the existing impressions...
I really hope Indian and Pakistani people can visit each other's country,
so that we can both be economically well-off.
So, the culture and people in entertainment industries.
If Pakistani people like those things, I wish they'd let Indian people in.
I think Pakistan is the country with the largest number of Indian movie fans.
Zahid knows so many Indian songs.
- I heard him singing last time and... - I liked them since I was a child.
- I hope to see you two singing an Indian song together. - Right.
(We hope to see them singing together in harmony someday.)
(Did the miracle occur?)
(Watch the fantastic Indian and Pakistani duet next week. Coming soon!)
According to a report by the Ministry of Employment and Labor early this year,
the number of Koreans who went abroad to find a job last year was 2,903.
The figure has increased by 73% compared to the previous year.
Are there a lot of people who want to work abroad in your countries?
Is U.S. the only country where people don't really think about getting a job abroad?
Yes. You know, if you live in Seoul and there are no jobs in Seoul,
people would think, "Do I have to go abroad?"
But in the U.S, if there are no jobs in New York, you can go to LA.
Or you can go to Chicago. There are lots of cities to go to.
There are 50 states, so you can find other jobs inside the country.
There is another reason why Americans don't look for jobs abroad.
When Americans live abroad,
- they still have to pay tax to the U.S. - Oh, right.
- That is... - That's a lot.
- I don't think that's the reason why people choose not to go abroad. - Really?
- It is true though. - When you live outside, why...
There are about two countries like that. The U.S...
Do you have to pay tax when you're not receiving any social services?
I don't think I'm not receiving any social services.
For example, if something happens, I'll be protected through the embassy here.
- Things like... - Are you paying the tax now?
- To both Korea and the U.S. - To Korea too?
- I didn't know about this. - Wow.
You pay tax to Korea and the U.S. and live in Hanok Village.
- Wow. - He pays more than I do.
Swiss people don't go abroad often, right?
Switzerland is a wealthy country...
- and there are lots of jobs. - Lots?
Yes. So there aren't many reasons to leave.
So Swiss people don't try to find jobs abroad.
Instead, we have to hire foreign workers.
In fact, 24% of the people living in Switzerland are foreigners.
Most of them are from Italy, Germany, and France.
There are about two million young French people...
who live and work abroad.
- Two million? - Yes.
- But it's less than that of Italy or Germany. - It's less.
It's probably because France is a good country.
- It's really... - People want to live in France,
but when students graduate and try to find a job,
companies place too much emphasis on people's majors.
If you want to work in a different field,
you don't have many opportunities.
- In France? - Yes.
So, if you go to the U.S. or the U.K,
they ask you for which college degrees you have. Then you can get a job.
And there's another problem.
If you are an African-French,
you might be discriminated against.
But that's not the case when you work abroad.
You are considered to be French.
I thought France was the country of fraternity.
- Why the discrimination? - Right, equality and fraternity.
It looks like they discriminate against people even more.
- It's still... - France is hard to understand.
- India... - India is also...
has a population of 1.2 billion.
So many people go to live abroad.
Mostly to Silicon Valley in the U.S, right?
Well, there are a lot of IT start-ups there.
- And there are no language barriers in the U.K. - You can speak English.
So people choose to go.
- English-speaking countries. - Yes.
There's something I want to ask Nik.
Germany seems to be a very good place to live in.
I noticed so many German people coming to India to work.
- Really? - Why is that?
They are not there to find jobs.
For Germany, there are many trade opportunities with India these days.
So German companies operate in India and send their employees to India.
There are lots of interns in large companies, of course.
But many people come to find various other jobs.
You know, there are foreign dancers in Indian movies.
- Are they Germans? - And... Yes, in the background.
- That must be very tough. - And...
There are party planners.
There are party planners who set up pool parties in the summer and things.
Do German people work as party planners?
- That would be so boring. - It'd be boring.
They must be letting off the stress they were bottling up in Germany.
I don't understand why people think German people don't like to play.
We don't think you don't like to play. We think you don't know how to play.
Clubs in Berlin are considered to be very hot in Europe these days.
Do you still think it's not fun to play in Germany?
His eyes are open this wide right now.
- Lots of tourists go there. - Oh.
When I left Italy 10 years ago,
there weren't many people going to live abroad.
But there are lots of people these days.
More than 100,000 people move abroad every year.
The U.S. is where people want to go the most.
When people receive a Ph.D in Italian colleges...
and become researchers in Italy, they don't get paid much.
But they get paid 5 or 6 times as much in the U.S, so people move...
as soon as they get their Ph.D.
People call it a human resource drain or the brain drain. It's a big problem.
But in fact, whether it's the highly educated people or not,
people leaving isn't a very good thing for the country.
I heard some countries place restrictions on people getting jobs abroad.
I think they should make more decent work opportunities...
instead of limiting the freedom of individuals.
In Italy, someone who returns to Italy after living five years abroad...
receives lots of tax benefits.
They only pay about 30 to 40% of normal income tax.
People should spend five years abroad even if they don't do anything.
I heard China gives benefits to people who return from abroad.
If people who have lived abroad...
come to China and start a business,
they receive a financial support of up to $170,000.
The first benefit is...
People would need to rent an office space, right?
They get an office for free for the first year of the business.
And highly educated individuals who studied in the best colleges...
receive even more benefits when they return to China.
- I heard they get up to $200,000. - Right.
The U.S. was founded by immigrants,
so the law and the investment system...
are geared towards helping risk takers.
It's really easy to start a business. If you have a good idea, you can succeed.
There's a very firm notion.
Koreans can also go and start a business if they have a business idea.
There are many successful people.
You know, Korea has a lot of interest in start-ups too.
In your perspective, is Korea still not a good place...
to start a business compared to the U.S?
Korea is starting to make a system like that too.
If a person goes to an interview...
Let's say you started a business but failed.
In the U.S,
"Wow, you must have learned a lot of things from that."
- It's considered to be courageous. - They'd want to hire you even more.
But here, it's still like, "Oh, I wonder why you failed."
- "You have failed before." - That's an important point.
What if your business failed 10 times?
- Wow! - Wow!
You have a great sense of challenging yourself!
If this was baseball, it's like, "Now is when you're going to hit a big one".
The person who made Angry Birds failed over 40 times.
- It came out after those. - Exactly.
- That's nice. - Who is that?
I think you would know this well.
You can talk about your country or Korea.
What kind of business do you think will be successful in your countries?
- For a Korean person in Italy. - There is something.
- What is it? - But I'm not sure if I can talk about this.
It's something big.
This will be something great.
Rent-able rooms.
- Oh. - You mean like a motel?
- Lodging? - A room.
"It's $30 for 4 hours."
You don't have that in Italy, right?
Yes, we have hotels and motels,
but there are no rent-able rooms. So people have to drive to the countryside.
But, this is...
- Like in a field of reeds. - Right.
An empty parking lot or the countryside...
Alberto, is there a law against renting out rooms?
I think you shouldn't make it an obvious business,
but in Korea... Although Korea is a conservative country,
people do it freely.
People don't even say "We want to rent a room".
- "We're here to stop by for a bit." - To rest.
- It's a good expression. - We'll be stopping by for a bit.
I think the Korean spicy seasoned chicken will be very successful in India.
- Indian people like chicken. - More so than tandoori chicken?
People have been eating that for hundreds of years. It's time for something new.
Spicy seasoned chicken? Not fried chicken?
Spicy seasoned chicken. I think it would be very popular.
Wouldn't it be too spicy?
Indians are very used to spicy food.
I even thought of a name. LFC.
Lucky Fried Chicken.
- See? Lucky Fried Chicken. - You can wear a white suit and stand like this.
- That'd look good on him. - Yes.
What I want to take to Switzerland with me from Korea...
- is karaoke. - Karaoke?
I think karaoke will be successful in Switzerland.
And you are very strict on time.
- One hour, please. - You won't have to give them extra time.
Do you think it will be successful in India?
It won't work at all.
- No? - No, because...
You might think it will be successful because Indian people love to play,
but Indian people won't pay to sing.
- So, they won't pay to sing. - Right.
They can sing anywhere.
- Aurélien? - Bread?
- Bread? - Paris Baguette opened its second bakery last year.
Paris Baguette? In Paris?
But it's a Korean brand.
I thought France was more famous for bread.
There was an international baking competition, and Korea won this time.
- Really? - That's amazing.
With what kind of bread?
- I'm not sure. - Sulppang? Gyeranppang?
- Hardtacks? - Hardtacks are for the soldiers.
Korea made a lot of online-to-offline applications.
You can find nearby gas stations, motels,
hair salons, masseurs, or anything else.
- Isn't everything spread far apart in Canada? - That's why we need it.
So you can find what you have nearby.
- Without it... - You won't get any search results.
The result. In 500km...
How about business items from your countries that would be successful in Korea?
I want to run a dumpling restaurant in Korea.
In Korea? So, Chinese dumplings.
I really like dumplings. I'm good at making them.
- You're good at making them? - Yes, I am.
- You made a name for the restaurant. - Yes.
Dumplings with rising fillings. Sokcha Dumpling.
- Sokcha Dumpling. - Yes.
Isn't making dumplings hard work?
- But there are machines that make the wrappers these days. - You're right.
- If you're going to use a machine... - With AlphaGo?
You saw meal deliveries in India, right?
- People deliver thousands of meals a day. - Right.
Homemade meals are popular in Korea too.
How about an application for ordering homemade meals?
- Homemade meal delivery? - But...
Delivery food applications are...
It's packing and delivering...
homemade meals made by your wife or mother.
- Then you give back the dishes. - That's a new system.
There's a movie about that. It's called "The Lunchbox".
In that movie, there's a love story about delivered lunch boxes.
The husband doesn't eat the meals the wife makes for him.
So the wife feels bad. She wonders if she's doing something wrong.
- So is the meal made properly in the end? - What's the message? Eating well?
- You should watch the movie. - A meal should be finished.
- After finishing a bowl... - "This is how it should be!"
- But there is a twist. - There is a twist!
The twist is, people from Harvard University actually did a case study.
There are over 100,000 meals delivered every day in Mumbai.
But none of them goes to the wrong place.
They always get delivered exactly to the right place.
In this movie, the protagonist's packed meal ends up in the wrong place.
- The meal she made gets to a different man. - It's delivered to the wrong man.
This is getting weird. So her love is received by some another man.
So she falls in love with him.
- Why, the meal... - So the love relationship becomes intertwined.
The lunch box is delivered with...
all her feelings of love.
- That's weird. - Sounds like a good movie.
There are welders in Canada.
It's yongjeopgong in Korean.
This guy only works four days a week,
but gets an annual salary of $60,000.
Plumbers and welders are treated very well abroad.
- Yes, plumbers too. - The experts.
They get paid similarly to celebrities.
- Plumbers? - There aren't that many of them, so people call them when needed.
They'd ask the plumber if he or she can come visit. But if the plumber's busy,
they set the price.
"Well, this will cost you $700. Is that okay?"
- So the plumber sets the price. - He or she sets the price.
It's a lot. But you'd have to wait if he or she doesn't come.
"I'm sorry, but I can't make it today because I'm busy."
- "I'm completely booked. You'll have to wait until next year." - It's almost...
"I can go next week. But if you pay this much, I'll be there right away."
Are there Koreans in your countries who are successful with their businesses?
Somehow, I think Koreans are very good with...
things like styling, fashion, or cosmetics.
Recently, there was this young person named Toni Ko. She's a woman.
We have low-quality cosmetics and high-quality cosmetics.
But there were no mid-range products. So she decided to make them.
It's the N brand.
She recently sold the brand to the L company for $500 million.
- She was very successful. - It was a huge success.
- She found a niche market. - There is Kim's Tofu in India.
There are lots of vegetarians in India. 60% of Indian people are vegetarians.
Something that we ate that's similar to tofu is cottage cheese.
- Oh. - You squeeze milk and...
- You didn't have tofu then? - We didn't have tofu.
- But now there is tofu. It's much healthier. - It's not animal protein.
- That's a smart Korean person. - Really smart.
If you could get a job in a country...
- other than Korean, - This will be fun.
If you could get a job in a country...
- other than Korean, - This will be fun.
- If I get to choose again, - Yes?
I'd choose Korea again.
- Because... - Other than Korea.
Other than Korea?
If I have to choose somewhere else...
- Well? - The U.S.
- Do you want to be a singer there? - No, I want to learn how to act.
- I want to be an actress. - Right, you came to study.
So I want to learn acting in the U.S. and...
If I'm to choose a country other than Korea, I'd choose China.
- China? - Yes, China.
Relationship between Pakistan and China is becoming very good.
They started a massive project last year.
China produces a lot of products for export.
After producing the products, they wouldn't send them to India by sea.
They would send them to Pakistan by train.
Then those would be transported to other places like the Middle East by sea.
It's a massive project.
There is a Korean saying, "What's begun is half done".
It started last year, so I get the feeling that it will be successful.
I'm sorry, but we call that the "Missile Development Project".
Because if this goes well, Pakistani economy will grow. India doesn't like that.
Wow, he's patriotic.
- China is... - That's why they call it "Missile".
We saw two nuclear missiles. It's true.
Pakistan developed those with help from China and North Korea.
Nuclear development is another matter.
They're always arguing.
- Anyway, - I thought we barely managed to stop them.
If this project... I think it will succeed because...
In 10 years, the image of Pakistan will change completely.
- Because of this project. - I hope so too.
If I didn't come to Korea, I'd probably working in Wall Street as a day trader.
Day trading?
- Stock... -It's selling and buying in a day.
And making profit from the price differences.
- Every day... - Because I have nimble fingers.
- Did you watch "The Wolf of Wall Street"? - Yes, I did. It was fun.
- Would you be living like DiCaprio? - Would you?
What he did was illegal.
- Day trading is legal. - "I'm going to sue you!"
I'm not joking about this, but I asked a fortune teller once.
(Laughing)
I was told that I was the chef who cooked for King Sejong the Great.
- A Korean fortune teller said that? - Yes.
She asked me, "Weren't you Korean in your previous life?" I was...
If an Indian fortune teller...
said that he was the chef for King Sejong of Korea, I might believe it.
- Right, that would be scary. - It would be.
Indian people are very much into palm reading and horoscopes too.
- Do they read it? - It's a big deal in India.
They see how far your fingers can bend.
Each finger shows a person's personality.
- Based on how your fingers bend? - Teach us!
- I'll keep this simple. You know, the thumb... - Yes?
If your thumb bends too softly,
- It means your willpower is soft. - Weak-willed?
- Indecisive. - And if it's stiff,
- you're quite strong... - Mine doesn't move at all.
- Mine doesn't move at all. - And one more thing.
- Mine doesn't move at all. - Wait, I think it's really stiff.
Mine bends really easily.
Did you hurt your thumb?
- Like this... - Mine doesn't move.
And your palm. When you hold your fist,
if there is a space inside your fist,
- it means you'll be rich. - A space in your fist?
Of course, it's childish but funny.
If you want to believe it... You know, belief is important.
- It is important. - In the end...
So you think you were the chef of King Sejong in your previous life.
When I heard it, I thought I should go home and make good kimchi.
So, if I get another chance,
I want to become a sexy chef who is very good.
- I think you'd be good at cooking. - That would suit you well.
- I want to sprinkle salt like this and things. - Right.
How about the country you don't want to visit?
- Italians don't go to Northern Europe often. - Northern Europe?
- Why? - It's cold.
- That was simple. - It's cold, and the food isn't good.
- I'm the opposite. I can't go to hot countries. - You can't?
- You know, my dad married a woman from Cuba. - Right.
My stepmother is from Cuba.
I only visit there in winter because it's too hot.
Me too.
I can't stand the heat.
- You only visit her house in winter. - Okay.
I think Swiss people would hate hot countries too.
I think Swiss people wouldn't like a country like Brazil...
because it's dangerous.
And...
Countries like India...
- where trains... - I think Swiss people don't like a challenge.
- You should give things a try. - It's a quiet country.
Swiss people... Countries like India where the train comes late...
- They couldn't handle it. - I think it won't work.
Cao Lu, is there a country you don't want to visit?
- Oh, I'm very curious about things. - You do appear to be.
So I want to visit all the countries in the world once.
And, if it's possible, I would like to go to Mars.
- It won't be easy to get a job there. - A job?
You all adapted well in Korea.
Do you have any advice for people wanting to go abroad?
- Yes, China. - You know, China...
- People call it guanxi. - Guanxi.
Chinese guanxi is very complicated.
Softly connecting your guanxi is a skill of it's own.
So you should know that before you go to China.
- I think Asian countries are like that. - Especially China.
That can be considered as being good with social relationships.
So, if you're good with social life, you can do well no matter where you go.
If I hear from people who are running businesses in China,
that's quite important in China.
- They have to be good at maintaining relationships too. Not just work. - Right.
That's what...
- Wouldn't there be a golden guanxi and dirt guanxi? - What?
- You mean like being born with a silver spoon or not. - Right.
You get a guanxi, but it's a bad one.
In China, even when people work,
they talk a lot about history and old expressions.
- Foreigners don't understand it. - We use a lot of four-letter idioms.
Four-letter idioms too. I have some friends who are living successfully in China.
They told me to study Chinese history.
- They tell me that often. - They're right.
You need the basic knowledge to understand things in business conversations too.
That's an important hint.
- What about France? - If you get a job in France,
don't expect to receive lots of compliments.
- No compliments? - Do people keep complaining?
Right, people don't give a lot of compliments. Sometimes...
If there's something you don't know or don't understand,
you have to ask directly.
You shouldn't pretend like you know it.
- If you don't know something, ask. - Yes, or...
- pretending to think... - You should ask right away.
- Yes. - Oh.
I'm still working hard for my dreams.
So, if you have a dream,
don't wait for the opportunity to come to you. Start acting.
If you have a dream... If you want to come to Korea,
then come. But,
if there is a difficult problem, don't give up easily.
(Touched)
I'm jealous. We're like fish trapped in a small pond.
I'm really jealous to be with the people from the outside.
- Our generation was like that. It wasn't easy to go abroad. - Yes.
- We're having such a special experience. - Exactly.
We're eating rice burgers in this basement.
India and Pakistan's arguing.
(Embarrassed)
Although we live on this beautiful Earth, when we look at the moon,
the moon looks more beautiful.
Like that, many people choose to leave because...
what's far away seems to be more beautiful.
So, don't just think about that.
You should have both a Plan A and Plan B.
- Because you might not succeed abroad. - Of course.
So you need a Plan B. Don't think that everything is over just because you failed.
If something doesn't go the way you expected, you'll have a different plan.
I think it'd be nice to go abroad with this in mind.
- Prepare a backup plan. - That's a very good advice. But there are still people...
who think that everything will go well once they go to another country.
So many people come to regret it in less than a month. That was a very good advice.
- Don't be caught up in a fantasy. - Right.
- Okay, the topic of the 104th Non Summit Meeting, - Yes.
"We left our countries and are working abroad. Are we abnormal?"
We will leave the final voting to the decisions of the viewers.
- So this is what's new in season two. - It's the biggest change.
Cao Lu, how was it to be here at Non Summit Meeting?
It was so good. I got to meet you and...
you are so good at speaking Korean.
This is something I felt.
- There's always someone better than you. - I see you prepared a lot for this.
You're studying Korean proverbs, aren't you?
- Yes. - How is she so good at using them?
- I studied with Se-yoon before. - Yes.
- We studied proverbs together. - Oh.
- We expressed them with our bodies. - Did you teach her?
I learned "The one who farted gets angry" from him.
- Here, show us. - Darn it!
("The one who farted gets angry.")
- That's it. - He's good.
I'm so thankful for you being so considerate of me.
Let's live well in Korea as fellow foreigners!
(Non Summit Meeting roots for everyone working hard in foreign countries.)
I would now like to adjourn our Non Summit Meeting.
- I heard we have a new song now. - Yes.
We submitted some ideas last week.
- Here are a few. - I'll look forward to this.
Until the day we all become normal!
You seem normal, yet abnormal, but normal
I want to be normal!
We will adjourn now!
The door is open. Any country is free to join the debate. Just knock on the door.
We have representatives from 11 countries.
How is Non Summit Meeting?
I think we should be harsher when we deal with issues in Korea.
- That's well said. - Welcome.
The first nude restaurant is becoming an issue with its strict rules for entrance.
I heard people who are overweight can't go.
That's a discrimination.
It's just the restaurant's concept.
Their concept is not to have slim people. It's about being naked.
(The debate gets heated!)
- It's Yoon Jong-shin. - Yes!
Jung Woo-sung has been here once before.
Some people think it's the footage from back then.
"I make my living off of people being sad. Am I abnormal?"
Every country has a farewell song.
It's a song saying, "Don't forget about me".
That line is sad.
(A Japanese farewell song by Oogi)
- Actually... - Japanese songs are very poetic.
(Aurélien's French farewell song)
You and I...
(Which lyrics surprised the farewell expert?)
That's really shocking.
(This is how Non Summit Meeting deals with farewells.)
(Non Summit Meeting, every Wednesday night at 10:50pm)
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